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Whos Smarter..

« on: July 23, 2004, 11:19:01 AM »

me, Trojanhorse or Morpheus and Tank.

At the end of the movie where Neo had to get to the phone while running from the agents... Why didnt Morpheus or tank go take the gunners position and shoot the Sentinals long b4 they ever made it to the ship?

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Re: Whos Smarter..

« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2004, 11:57:39 AM »

Hmm yeah interesting point, but Tank had to pilot the ship. That still leavfe Morpheus to man the guns, could take a least 1 or 2 out.

But I try not to look to closely, like why didn't the Agent's just take over one of the Police officers trying to arrest Trinity at the start. Bam! take over 3 officers in the room with her, and one dead Trinity


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Re: Whos Smarter..

« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2004, 12:28:52 PM »

Then she wouldnt be alive for this... At the beginning of the movie when Neo is in the Car with Switch, Apoc and Trinity. Neo isnt out of the matrix yet so once the agents found out their bug in Neos Belly Button was dead, wouldnt One of them take over Neos body and kill everyone in the car?

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Re: Whos Smarter..

« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2004, 11:38:59 PM »

Well he was The One. So no. He may not of been Freed yet but he was still the one.


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Re: Whos Smarter..

« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2004, 11:53:48 PM »

so he could of done all this stuff like stop bullets and all with still not being freed?


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Re: Whos Smarter..

« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2004, 12:14:39 AM »

Well this is the way I see it. This is my interpretation. In a sense everyone is already free. The reason people cant do those things is because they refuse to belive such feats can be done. I belive that neo ,even thought he was not technically saved, could of fallin from the side of the building and not died. I belive that what people call "Miracles" are really people unconciously doing feats that people that are freed do everyday.

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Re: Whos Smarter..

« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2004, 09:17:38 AM »

Hmm very interesting view there. I like the connection to the miracles and there explaination, nice.

He had already sort of subconsiously disconnected himself for the Matrix and that why they didn't/weren't able to take over him.


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Re: Whos Smarter..

« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2004, 10:31:46 PM »

hhmm.....true but why didnt Neo use the same ability in the first 1(when he jumped in smith's body and made him explode from the inside)hhmm....


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Re: Whos Smarter..

« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2004, 01:57:43 PM »

so, how did cypher go into the matrix to talk to the agents? when you think about it, you seem to wonder. you would need tank to jack him in/


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Re: Whos Smarter..

« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2004, 10:45:06 AM »

true.... :wink:


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Re: Whos Smarter..

« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2005, 11:54:23 AM »

I agree with Gideon completely. However, about the gunner in the first movie if you look at the hovercraft it doesn't have any guns, so they couldn't use them (poorly made ship). And for the officers; when Smith talks to the guard outside he tells him the men are already dead; so what we see happened before the agents got there.

As for Cypher, well I always wondered about that too. Maybe, he used some kind of hack to put himself in or maybe he got someone else to put him in and leave him. I really don't know; I just have to believe.


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Re: Whos Smarter..

« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2005, 02:40:53 PM »

The question is not how did Cypher jack into to the matrix. It is why no one notice him taking the ship to broadcast depth to do so.


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Re: Whos Smarter..

« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2005, 11:03:47 PM »

i dont think cypher jacked in at all to talk to smith. When Neo walks up to him and startles him he stops typing and turns off all the screens that are displaying code like he was just doing something sneeky. I'm assuming that this means that he was 'talking' to smith by writing code and that he wasnt actuly in the matrix. But then that means that if you can do that then redpills wouldn't have to bother jacking in to get things done.

If you can be bothered going back and looking at the way cypher is acting through that whole scene you'll probly notice he's being pretty suss. also remember that the code that they see is a direct translation to whats happening in the matrix, so theoreticly you could interact with 'people' inside it by using like a msn program or something. :? dunno, whaddya think?


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Re: Whos Smarter..

« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2005, 11:20:06 PM »

Old thread but.
When the agent shoots the Helicopter gas tank area...shouldnt it of blown up?


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Re: Whos Smarter..

« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2005, 12:54:24 AM »

Whoa, nice going there Dr Jones Tongue

Anyway, no not really. Thats a hollywood myth i believe. If a bullet were to enter a fuel tank there would have to be air in the tank for it to explode, no air = no oxygen, no oxygen = no combustion.

And yes i'm aware that some air may enter the tank through the holes that a bullet made but i don't think it'll be enough.


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